Category Archives: Bisexual (implicit)

Queer Game Narrative in Dream Daddy: A Dad Dating Simulator

Dream Daddy: A Dad Dating Simulator is a game that allows the player to customize their own dad character (with trans binder options) and date seven other dads. Because of the game’s premise, many queer relationships are featured in addition to specifically queer characters outside of the dateable dads. The game makes the player select their deceased spouse’s gender, allowing players to customize the sexuality of their player character. The game has multiple endings reliant on completing three dates successfully with a dateable dad of the player’s choice.

A list of characters and their implied or explicit sexualities and gender identities are as follows:

Brian: The player is never informed on if Brian was previously married or who Daisy’s second biological parent is. We also see no canon queer content for Brian outside of interactions with the player character.

Craig: He is formally married to Ashley but outside of interactions with the player, there is no canon queer content for Craig.

Dadsona: The player character specifically receives the option to use a binder, letting the player play as a trans man if they wish. The game also gives the option of choosing the player character’s deceased spouse’s gender, allowing for expression of a gay or bisexual identity.

Damien: The player is never informed on if Damien was previously married or who Lucien’s second biological parent is. Outside of player interactions, there is no canon queer (in regards to sexuality) content for Damien, but during the first date with Damien (found here at around 9:00), Damien mentions having binders in his closet. In a tweet from one of the co-creators, Leighton Gray, Damien is also confirmed to be trans.

Hugo: In Hugo’s DadBook profile, he says that he is turned on by muscles and we also find out that he has an ex-partner who he refers to as “the cool weekend dad” when talking about his son, Earnest and his past. This suggests that he is at least explicitly gay, possibly implicitly bisexual depending on his past before his most recent ex-partner.

Joseph: Through playing the story, we find out that Joseph has cheated on Mary before with Robert. We’re also shown that Joseph’s relationship is on the rocks and many have speculated whether Joseph is gay, bi, or queer in some way, such as in this reddit thread.

Mat: The player is informed that Mat was formerly married to a woman named Rosa before she died, but other than from player interactions, there’s no canon queer content for Mat.

Pablo: This character shows up multiple times as you’re dating Mat and seems to go by he/him pronouns but dresses in a gender non-conforming way.

Robert: We are told that he was formerly married to a woman named Marilyn but that she is deceased. In the game he offers to hook up with the player character before the character is able to date anyone and he is also known to have hooked up with Joseph. This suggests that he is explicitly bisexual.

Val: Through Robert’s story, you can meet Val, his estranged daughter, who mentions her girlfriend while talking to Amanda (found here at around 1:00:57), suggesting that she is explicitly lesbian.

A big controversy that relates to the difficulty in labeling these characters’ sexualities is that the game never explicitly uses labels or terminology. In an interview by Mic with both of the game’s co-creators, these things were said:

“The driving force of writing this game was that we didn’t want any of the paths to explicitly be about the dads’ sexualities.”

“A lot of people have said that this game fails to engage with queer culture in a meaningful way, and I absolutely understand that criticism,” Gray said over the phone. “But also, we didn’t want any of the [character arcs] to explicitly be about the dads’ sexualities. I think we already have a lot of media that spends a lot of time talking about those kinds of feelings and navigating coming out and grappling with your sexuality. I think those narratives are important, for sure, but I just want to fast-forward to the part where we can have stories about queer characters that are not explicitly about them being queer.”

This leaves many of the characters’ sexualities up for speculation, but for the purposes of the Archive, they are categorized on here as described in the list above.

LGBTQ References in this game:

Queer Game Narrative in Dream Daddy: A Dad Dating Simulator

Citations:

  1. Dream Daddy: A Dad Dating Simulator. (n.d.). Retrieved from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Daddy:_A_Dad_Dating_Simulator
  2. Frank, A. (2017, July 17). Dream Daddy Simulator’s last-minute delay causes a stir. Retrieved from https://www.polygon.com/2017/7/17/15973206/dream-daddy-simulator-release-date-pc
  3. Graylish. (2017, July 21). yes! [Tweet]. Retrieved from https://twitter.com/graylish/status/888316619168006144
  4. Ladypocky. (2017, July 29). R/DreamDaddy – “Joseph will always stay Married to Mary.” Joseph’s romance path is apparently a moral lesson? Retrieved from https://www.reddit.com/r/DreamDaddy/comments/6q916a/joseph_will_always_stay_married_to_mary_josephs/
  5. Mulkerin, T. (2017, July 28). ‘Dream Daddy,’ the gayest game of the year, never uses the word “gay.” Let’s talk about that. Retrieved from https://mic.com/articles/182198/dream-daddy-the-gayest-game-of-the-year-never-uses-the-word-gay-lets-talk-about-that#.wsvXRXvYQ
  6. Wolftooth. (2017, July 22). Dream Daddy A Dad Dating Simulator All Robert Small dates rank S & Good Ending. Retrieved from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awUVKEgeA1I
  7. Wolftooth. (2017, July 23). Dream Daddy A Dad Dating Simulator All Damien Bloodmarch dates rank S & Good Ending. Retrieved from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeI5tKfZ2A0

Soleil in Fire Emblem Fates

Soleil is one of the 2nd-generation child units the player can recruit to their army once her father, Laslow, has an S-rank with another female unit in your army.

Soleil’s character development and support conversations in the game have evoked much controversy, such as her support conversations in the original Japanese text of the game with Male Kamui/Corrin (the protagonist). A transcript of the original text is linked here. In it, Soleil, who is known for having crushes on girls, asks the protagonist for help focusing on her work as a mercenary. The protagonist over the course of their relationship slips a magic powder into her drink, causing her to see people as the opposite gender they are, and in their final support conversation, proposes to her. She accepts and says that she loved seeing the protagonist as a girl but she has begun to love him as a boy as well.

Many have taken this to be a problematic portrayal of date-rape and gay conversion therapy, causing the localization team to actually change the in-game support conversations between Soleil and the male protagonist. In the English localization, the male protagonist instead helps Soleil practice not getting as excited around girls by consensually blindfolding her. The transcript of the English localization text can be found here.

This change in text of the situation with Soleil was met with praise as fans appreciated the localization team’s effort with ensuring that this was a consensual process for Soleil. However, it also seems that various parts of her support conversations were altered with other possible male romance options. In all of Soleil’s Japanese S-Rank Support Conversations (generally support conversations that end in romance or marriage of some sort), she ends up becoming lovers with the male characters or marrying them. In the English localization, she only falls in love with Forrest (another 2nd-generation child unit, known to often dress in women’s clothing) and the male protagonist, Kamui/Corrin. She also tends to flirt/hit on other 2nd-generation female child units in her same-sex support conversations (with the exception of her in-game conversations with Nina, as they both fantacize about same-sex romance). In a few of the Japanese translations, she seems a bit more aggressive and suggestive in her pursuit of her fellow 2nd-generation female child units than in the English translations. Here is an example from a support conversation with Sophie where they negotiate the outcomes of a deal:

Japanese Version

  • Sophie: Guh. You really hit where it hurts don’t you…by the way what happens when I win?
  • Soleil: How about I’ll do anything you ask me to?
  • Sophie: That sounds good. What if I lose?
  • Soleil: The same, you do whatever I tell you to do.
  • Sophie……….I have a bad feeling about this.
  • Soleil: I won’t do anything weird to a good friend of mine. Or could it be that you’re scared?

English Version

  • Sophie: Uh, th-that won’t be necessary. Fine, just you then. What happens if I win?
  • Soleil: I will never call you a flower again.
  • Sophie: Sounds good. And if I lose?
  • Soleil: Then you’ll change your name to Flower.
  • Sophie: No way, Soleil.
  • Soleil: Oh, all right. You have to emblazon a tiny flower on your armor.

Outside of support conversations, the character is described as “The Girl Lover” in 4koma’s official artwork of the game (pictured below) and also described with the text, “though she is a girl herself, she is fond of other cute girls, and unabashedly flirts with them”. The game also gives each unit in your army a Personal Skill, and Soleil’s is called Sisterhood (English version)/Girl Lover (Japanese version), a skill that says “If Soleil is the lead unit in an Attack Stance or Guard Stance with a female as her supporting unit, she will deal 2 additional damage and receive 2 less damage.” (found here)

During the Paralogue she is recruited in, in-game text from her father talking with a comrade of his suggests that she is bisexual.

  • Silas: Hmm, Laslow, did your daughter just ask that girl out to gaze at the stars?
  • Laslow: Why, yes! She’s got good taste. In women as well as men—got a problem with that?

It is unclear what Soleil’s exact sexuality is as Japanese text more strongly supports her being bisexual, while both the Japanese and English text support her having a preference towards women. Some fans have argued that she is not bisexual or a lesbian because she is unable to marry/romance any female units in the game, however, all of the in-game text supports otherwise.

LGBTQ references in this game series:

Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken (2003):  Florina and Lyndis; Lucius and Raven

Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones (2004): Joshua and Gerik

Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (2005): Ike and SorenJill and Mist

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn (2007): HeatherJill and MistKyzaRanulf

Fire Emblem Awakening (2012): Same-Sex Relationship Hack

Fire Emblem Fates (2015): Forrest; NinaRomance optionsSoleil

Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia (2017): Leon

Citations:

  1. Ashcraft, B. (2015, July 08). Why Some People Are Calling Fire Emblem Fates ‘Homophobic’. Retrieved from https://kotaku.com/why-some-people-are-calling-fire-emblem-fates-homophobi-1715602826
  2. Bonds, C. (2016, January 20). Fire Emblem: Fates Changes Controversial Support Conversation in Western Regions – News. Retrieved from http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/41814/fire-emblem-fates-changes-controversial-support-conversation-in-western-regions
  3. Bright Smile. (n.d.). Retrieved from https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Bright_Smile
  4. Leoppi. (n.d.). Sophie Soleil C-A Support. Retrieved March 8, 2019, from https://pastebin.com/Q60pSnTs
  5. Sisterhood. (n.d.). Retrieved from https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Sisterhood
  6. Soleil. (n.d.). Retrieved from https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Soleil
  7. Soleil/Mamui Supports. (2015, June 30). Retrieved March 8, 2019, from https://pastebin.com/bgQC0yEa
  8. Soleil/Supports. (n.d.). Retrieved from https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Soleil/Supports
  9. Whitaker, J. (2015, July 02). Consent and gay conversion issues in Fire Emblem Fates. Retrieved from https://www.destructoid.com/consent-and-gay-conversion-issues-in-fire-emblem-fates-295164.phtml
  10. Xkan. (2015, December 26). FE Fates: 4Koma Comic & Character Guidebook (Page 138-139) Translation – Soleil. Retrieved from https://kantopia.wordpress.com/2015/12/26/fe-fates-4koma-comic-character-guidebook-page-138-139-translation-soleil/
  11. Xkan. (2016, February 17). Fire Emblem Fates: Soleil’s Localized Support Conversation (FULL). Retrieved from https://kantopia.wordpress.com/2016/02/17/fire-emblem-fates-soleils-localized-support-conversation-full/

Velvet Crowe in Tales of Berseria

Velvet Crowe is the first woman to solo carry protagonist duties in Bandai Namco’s Tales Series. Unlike previous entries in the series, the protagonist does not receive a romantic narrative. Through in-game events and skits, Velvet shows little to no interest in sex or romance with her only significant relationships being with her childhood friend Niko and enemy-turned-ally Eleanor. With the absence of a reciprocal heterosexual relationship fans speculate this absence as a sign of queerness, an implicit encoding of an asexual, lesbian, or bisexual identity.

LGBTQ references in this game series:

Tales of Symphonia: Zelos and Lloyd

Tales of Zestiria: Sorey and Mikleo

Tales of Berseria: Velvet Crowe

Citations:

  1. Various. (2017, April 6). [Berseria][Discussion][Spoiler] Could Velvet be bisexual? Reddit. Retrieved from https://www.reddit.com/r/tales/comments/63qprb/berseriadiscussionspoiler_could_velvet_be_bisexual/
  2. Various. (n.d.). Velvet Crowe (character page). Aselia, the Tales Wiki. Retrieved from https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/aselia/images/e/e1/Velvet_Artwork.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170226095330
  3. Yuru Media. (2018, August 8). Tumblr. Retrieved from https://yurimedia.tumblr.com/post/176775912190/i-finished-tales-of-berseria-a-while-ago-and-i?is_related_post=1

Lewis Finch in What Remains of Edith Finch

Lewis Finch was the firstborn and the first son of Sanjay Kumar and Dawn Finch, and the older brother of Milton and Edith. One month before his 22nd birthday, Lewis died by committing suicide from putting his head into an automated guillotine at the fish cannery he worked at after months of struggling with a mental disorder.

During a scene in the game where his psychiatrist tells Dawn in a letter about his mental disorder, the player sails a ship and has two routes as options to sail down. One reads “Beautiful Prince” and the other reads “Handsome Queen”. Depending on which path the player takes, Lewis imagines being crowned by either, and the game refers to them as his prince/queen, inferring that this prince/queen is a possible love interest for Lewis (found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCcxXA4lWOc).

LGBTQ References in this game:

Lewis Finch

Citations:

  1. Lewis Finch. (n.d.). Retrieved from https://what-remains-of-edith-finch.fandom.com/wiki/Lewis_Finch
  2. Messofanego. “What Remains Of Edith Finch – Lewis (Male Romance).” YouTube, YouTube, 26 Apr. 2017, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCcxXA4lWOc

Genocide Jack/Jill and Toko in Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc

Toko Fukawa is a teen trapped inside Hope’s Peak Academy and forced to play the Killing Game. Genocide Jack, a serial killer, is her other personality, as she has Dissociative Identity Disorder. Throughout the game, Toko and Genocide Jack both talk inappropriately about multiple characters, but in Chapter 2, Genocide Jack suggests that Hina and Sakura, two other teens trapped inside Hope’s Peak Academy and forced to play the Killing Game, are into “girl-on-girl action” (found here). In Chapter 4, Toko talks about how “disgusting” she thinks Hina is, leading to what seems like Toko thinking of Hina in a sexual way (found here). Both Toko and Genocide Jack seem to worship one of the male characters named Byakuya Togami as their “master” throughout the game as well, in addition to Genocide Jack only targeting “cute boys”, so it is unknown what Toko and Genocide Jack’s sexual orientations are.

LGBTQ References in this series:

Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc (2010): Chihiro; Genocide Jack/Jill and Toko; Hifumi’s Ending; Mondo and Taka; Monokuma; School Mode

Citations:

  1. Genocide Jack/Jill (n.d.) Danganronpa Wiki. Retrieved from http://danganronpa.wikia.com/wiki/Genocide_Jack
  2. Noire Blue. “Danganronpa Trigger Happy Havoc Walkthrough Part 30 No Commentary.” YouTube, YouTube, 27 Feb. 2016, www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh1JxXCMTis&index=30&list=PLGKJJhcJXlNw7i05ON_K-zFfvD0zQOboD
  3. Noire Blue. “Danganronpa Trigger Happy Havoc Walkthrough Part 53 No Commentary.” YouTube, YouTube, 6 Mar. 2016, www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS0mbF1ThSc&list=PLGKJJhcJXlNw7i05ON_K-zFfvD0zQOboD&index=53
  4. Toko Fukawa (n.d.) Danganronpa Wiki. Retrieved from http://danganronpa.wikia.com/wiki/Toko_Fukawa